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vincentliao
2004-11-18, 09:09 AM
套一句外交部長的話.
這個主題名稱如何
若貼到
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewforum.php?f=1
會有反應嗎?

vincentliao
2004-11-18, 10:07 AM
結論... 沒反應...

adam
2004-11-18, 11:11 AM
應該是還沒看到吧

vincentliao
2004-11-18, 11:25 AM
應該是還沒看到吧

[正在瀏覽此區的會員: jeff, some, vincentliao, 網域名稱服務組]

http://080.com/images/twnic.net/twnic_net_pic2.jpg

沒臉回吧...

哈啦
2004-11-18, 11:46 AM
你是官員嗎?不是。
你是民代嗎?不是。
你是媒體嗎?不是。
那他們幹嘛甩你?除了以上三者,誰能奈何得了他們?既然你拿他們一點辦法都沒有,他們何必理你?

vincentliao
2004-11-18, 11:53 AM
小弟是一位計程車司機,他們都不理我. 可是我花錢養他們ㄚ.

monkey
2004-11-18, 12:28 PM
小弟是一位計程車司機,他們都不理我. 可是我花錢養他們ㄚ.

他們不是政府單位喔....他們是財團法人..你沒有直接的養到他們!
如果你有註網名的話...那只是他們的涼水費用而已... ^^"

天氣都變冷了...火氣還那麼大^^" 把車車開去北投泡泡溫泉...還比較實在..

PS: 是你泡溫泉...不是車車泡溫泉喔 ?:D

vincentliao
2004-11-18, 12:38 PM
收到,開車車去了,
今天又少賺一些 CoCo ,
沒 LP 的 [twnic] 只敢騙騙自家台灣網民的辛苦錢.

adam
2004-11-18, 12:40 PM
烏來那邊兒負離子比較多...

best-url
2004-11-18, 01:13 PM
烏來那邊兒負離子比較多...

自從看到電視的介紹之後, 真的 好想找時間去走一趟, 聞聞 負離子 的味道...

Ricado
2004-11-18, 01:18 PM
自從看到電視的介紹之後, 真的 好想找時間去走一趟, 聞聞 負離子 的味道...


來高雄,我把吹風機借你。

達新牌負離子吹風機 --> 含超量負離子 ?:D

哈啦
2004-11-18, 01:32 PM
負離子其實就是由靜電產生的吧?理論上來說,只要有很多東西會產生摩擦的地方就會有負離子出現?

best-url
2004-11-18, 01:35 PM
感謝 Ricado 奇葩 (Vincen 兄說: 全台灣 只有 兄台 您一個人 賺得到 微軟 的錢) !

如果 含超量負離子 的 達新牌負離子吹風機 的售價 低於 NT$2000, 那我就去賣場 買一台放在屋子裡, 24 小時 吹送 負離子 - 照顧身體 兼 保暖 ... 呵呵呵 ~~

Ricado
2004-11-18, 02:16 PM
負離子吹風機700多而已,不過是吹頭髮的,吹24小時要買空氣清淨機吧,現在也都有負離子功能啦。
很多記者在寫的時候,並不是那麼專業,但媒體的力量真的很強。

如果再有人告訴你奇異果含高度維他命C,維他命C,具美容養顏效果...,你還會去買一堆來吃嗎?

跟各位大大講一個未經確認的真實故事,大約10年前自立晚報大幅報導空軍35快砲弊案,當我到立委辦公室拿到報紙一及一堆所謂的照片時,當場昏倒,內容是對的,但為了版面漂亮,挑了一張夕陽西下、排列整齊、微微上揚的....110字走砲。

聽當時盧修一的助理說照片是阿扁提供的 ?:D 只是一直沒機會問阿扁

some
2004-11-18, 07:28 PM
負離子其實就是由靜電產生的吧?理論上來說,只要有很多東西會產生摩擦的地方就會有負離子出現?

馬子把多一點就有很多負離子的啦.. ~embarass:

adam
2004-11-18, 07:47 PM
其實現在不少公司的辦公場所都有使用電器設備產生負離子, 只是員工不一定曉得!!

dtc
2004-11-19, 12:08 AM
I agree with Vincent. I have dealt with TWNIC numerous time and I must say it wasn't a pleasant experience. It seems to me like TWNIC is lack of the following:

1. Technical incompetent
2. Irresponsible and not professional in terms of customer service
3. Process inefficiency
4. Poor in English communication (I hope TWNIC can understand this message)

With that said, it TWNIC is a private business, they will won't last a month in the real world competition.

1. Technical incompetent, a small mistake like recent TWNIC email [TWNIC域名重要通知] (http://www.domain.club.tw/viewtopic.php?t=5476), what a joke! This small mistake indicates how careless TWNIC is and they have no QA whatsoever. This kind of communication mistake ruins TWNIC's image and reputation, which are already not too good. If this is in private sector, this mistake along will indeed drive away business partners and customers. Also, it was about two years ago, I have to constantly dealt with TWNIC about one of the domain I registered but TWNIC decided to give the domain to someone who register the same domain but "later" than I did. The domain was Happy.com.tw. How do I know that someone registered "later" than I did… Well, when I called up TWINIC and TWNIC DBA explained that the ID displayed on the 網域名稱審查書 is the "sequence number" generated by Oracle "DUAL" object. Anyone who is technically competent would know that DUAL object is used to generates "sequential" unique number! Well, I guess anyone except TWNIC. The number on my 網域名稱審查書 was something like XXXX16 and the other person's number was XXXX28, I told the DBA and he just tried to explain his way out and told me no, that is not how Oracle works! &*^#$(#)**(&^#$ I have been in the technical field for almost 10 years and worked on most high tech project imaginable for US DOD (Department of Defense) and NASA, I have never seen the Oracle like that. A new TWNIC invention.

2. Irresponsible and not professional in terms of customer service, try to call TWNIC's support number and see how fast you can get a response back. Try to write them an email and clock their response. Don't forget I live in Maryland, United States. When I called them two year ago, I was put on hold for 30 ~ 40 minutes every time! I don't know about you but my telephone bill wasn't pretty. Not mentioning that I wrote them an email and get no response whatsoever, maybe they just can't read English. What can I do? I don't know how to key in in Chinese. Customer service is one most important factor for business to succeed. Look at how DELL computer pride on their Customer Service before they outsourced the task to India. That's pretty much how DELL succeeded: Great customer service and build on demand. Even with Microsoft, back in around 1995, when I called Microsoft for support, the support was free, it was extremely quick and when they can't solve my problem, they will just send me free software without a fee to just make me happy. I guess TWNIC is not real a business and I wonder what TWNIC CEO do? What business school did TWNIC CEO attend? Maybe he should consider Smith College, University of Maryland. It is a great business school and the focus is on "real-time" business.

3. Process inefficiency, slowness of doing everything: http://www.twnic.net/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=39&sid=e57e4ef1c94d63dbab919f8240d6450f is just one of the example. I have quiet few more examples. And maybe you can help me gather some. I have recently on quiet few BPI (business process improvement) for two of US Fortune 500 companies, Northrop Grumman and Constellation Energy, and one of Taiwan's major computer manufactory company, Acer. All major business with good CEO must to have these questions in mind: How to run business more effectively and how to improve our business process to help the business gain competitive advantage. Well, I guess TWNIC has no competition and that is why they don't care about their inefficient process.

4. Poor in English communication, I often wondering how can TWNIC bridge with its oversea authorized domain retailer. How can TWNIC bridge with the world with their limited English ability. It is a joke. They need new blood and they need new leadership.

So, as you can see, TWNIC is lack of all theses key elements to be a successful business. No wonder we are all suffering. To help TWNIC improve, I think I will contact few reporter friend of mine in Taiwan and don't forget this is an election year, so translate this into Chinese and forward this to your Congressman.

I declare all above statements are made based on my personal experiences and from my personal view. It has no malicious intend in any way, shape or form against TWNIC.

哈啦
2004-11-19, 12:28 AM
dtc兄說的很對,只可惜台灣沒幾個人懂網名,連年輕的記者都不太懂了,何況那些民代?

vincentliao
2004-11-19, 12:28 AM
Dear DTC,

Thanks for your support on
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=36
Truely.
Vincent Liao

vincentliao
2004-11-19, 12:55 PM
有人知道 [TWnic]現在是誰當家,
小弟都踢到他們門口.
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=36
還是不動如山?!
可否告知姓名. PM 也可以.

再給他們24小時.
不然小弟會罵更難聽的.

best-url
2004-11-19, 02:06 PM
有人知道 [TWnic]現在是誰當家,
小弟都踢到他們門口.
http://www.twnic.net.tw/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=36
還是不動如山?!
可否告知姓名. PM 也可以.

Vincen 大大,

應該跟 陳 執行長反映即可; 他說過 他偶爾會到 Domain.club.tw 站上來看看, 現在他們自己有了新的論壇, 應該會也會重視吧?!

不過, 剛才我去 TWNIC 論壇時看到 先前有版友問過 .tw 泛英域名 開放時間 的問題: [ .tw 開放日期?保留字? ]
http://www.twnic.net.tw/discuss/viewtopic.php?t=22

當時 [財團法人台灣網路資訊中心(TWNIC) 網域名稱客服中心] 的回覆是:

關於開放泛用型英文網域名稱事宜.由於目前TWNIC仍在評估及研擬相關配套的註冊方案.以期能於開放註冊時.得以保障用戶之權利.
本中心目前已在著手進行開放事宜.若有進一步的消息.請密切注意本中心之最新公告或電子報訊息.也歡迎您能提供您寶貴的意見.以作為TWNIC研擬相關政策之參考依據..


不過, 至今已經整兩個多月過去了, TWNIC 仍未有新的訊息...

或許是 難產 ~ 至少就現階段而言...

adam
2004-11-19, 02:22 PM
也可能代表確實要開放了

best-url
2004-11-19, 02:29 PM
也可能代表確實要開放了

:hehe

如果 adam 兄 您是來自 TWNIC ~ 那我就信你 ?:D


但真的也 不無可能喔(快要開放); 是不是 目前正處於 暴風雨前的寧靜 ?

monkey
2004-11-19, 03:35 PM
是不是 目前正處於 暴風雨前的寧靜 ?

會不會是...決定不開放了... ~embarass:

vincentliao
2004-11-19, 04:52 PM
TWnic 是個沒 LP 的爛機關,
您以為他只管網域名稱而已嗎?
台灣的 IP 分配他也有份,
各ISP 的 AS 分配它也有份.
本應站在中立的地位,卻成為分贓中心.各路人馬無不搶著當理事.
台灣網路不長進, TWnic難辭其罪
罪狀一: TWIX 掛在 Hinet 機房. 各 ISP 交換中心需低聲下氣向Hinet 申請. TWnic難辭其罪
罪狀二: 想到再列.

顧左右而言他, 沒 LP 的 twnic 又另開戰場.
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=41

sakillll
2004-11-19, 05:24 PM
現在很多台灣網站都是外國網域.外國虛擬主機.
台灣現實世界外移.連虛擬世界也外移...真慘
被一些米蟲霸佔住重要位置
那些米蟲只想要賺更多暴利.完全不會想要雙贏

dx2
2004-11-19, 05:43 PM
先解決技術問題,再談開放,免得又是一堆問題。
尋找.com.tw網域中,希望能夠成功轉移至國外註冊商,試著幫幫twnic做正面宣導。

vincentliao
2004-11-19, 06:08 PM
好累要顧三個,
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=41
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=39
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=36
不錯ㄛ,
米蟲有一套.
今天收工了,
改天再來.

dx2
2004-11-19, 08:59 PM
vincentliao兄
把你的網域噴在車窗上,相信你的業務量一定加倍。
你在twnic上面怎麼罵,也只是讓網站的管理人傷腦筋而已,建議以DLP名義行文發文給twnic,一天一封,相信很快的你會成為全台灣發文量最多的老百姓。

vincentliao
2004-11-19, 09:19 PM
Dx2林大哥,
謝謝您的關心,
小弟當工程師與開公司時被 TWnic 整的很慘,
有深入去了解一下 TWnic,小弟的大學老師也在裡面.
現在開計程車了,沒有玩這些東西了.
只是看到 TWnic 還是跟以前一樣不長進,有點生氣.
OK, Now. The End.

shenghong
2004-11-19, 09:31 PM
twnic最近一次董監會會議紀錄並沒有討論到泛英網址
今年的也沒有
http://www.twnic.net.tw/member/2-6thd.htm
倒是有.asia
今年的網域名稱委員會會議紀錄也是沒提到汎英網址
( http://www.twnic.net.tw/member/member_03a.htm )
應該有的等~

shenghong
2004-11-19, 09:39 PM
令外陳文生已經不是twnic的執行長了
http://www.twnic.net.tw/about/about_a_01_2.htm
剛剛心寫來潮找到的資料
twnic組織架構:
http://www.twnic.net.tw/about/about_a_01.htm
vincentliao大大不要生氣說~
自己氣自己反而害了自己
立委選舉快到了
很多候選人八不得製造話題
通常快選舉去反應問題最有效~^^

vincentliao
2004-11-20, 11:52 AM
抱歉,手癢又去貼了一下,
臭 Ricado, 結束了, [TheEnd]

[update]
臭 Shenghong 又害我手癢... [Really End]

dx2
2004-11-20, 05:53 PM
阿,真的被說對了,果然沒有。

vincentliao
2004-11-20, 06:12 PM
小聲問一下, [甚麼沒有?]. My Dear Dx2
那都是 臭Ricado, 臭 Shenghong 害我手癢,抱歉,又去貼了一下,
臭 Ricado, 臭 Shenghong 給我記住,害我說話不算話.
小弟真的和 [TWnic] 一樣沒有 LP .

shenghong
2004-11-20, 09:13 PM
小聲問一下, [甚麼沒有?]. My Dear Dx2
那都是 臭Ricado, 臭 Shenghong 害我手癢,抱歉,又去貼了一下,
臭 Ricado, 臭 Shenghong 給我記住,害我說話不算話.
小弟真的和 [TWnic] 一樣沒有 LP .
我也手癢去貼~
我也沒有LP...
?:D
好像會吵的才有糖吃
ADSL費率也是一樣~
~dead

dx2
2004-11-20, 09:23 PM
報告vincentliao大大
那個hinet跟infopro都有用tw啦,因為習慣的關係,所以都把tw給省略了。

vincentliao
2004-11-20, 09:35 PM
對[.tw]沒信心嗎
希望短一點.
所以要幹掉[.tw]

shenghong
2004-11-21, 01:26 AM
小弟當工程師與開公司時被 TWnic 整的很慘,

滿好奇是什麼事說
因為vincentliao大大脾氣還滿溫和的
不知道twnic做了啥事讓vincentliao大大那麼生氣?

vincentliao
2004-11-21, 10:26 AM
再來一篇.
http://forum.twnic.net.tw/viewtopic.php?t=42